New Vegas Cook for the Banquet New Vegas Beyond the Beef Characters

" A cannibalism problem? Actually? I'yard so glad you weren't eaten! " — Yes Man

Beyond the Beef is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas.

Contents

• 1 Synopsis
• 2 Quick walkthrough
• 3 Detailed walkthrough
  • three.1 Working with Mortimer
    • 3.1.1 Return Ted to his father and find a substitute for the feast
      • 3.i.1.1 Quest stages
    • 3.1.2 Kill Ted, and frame his begetter for the murder
      • 3.1.two.1 Quest stages
  • 3.2 Following the Investigator
    • 3.two.1 Quest stages
  • 3.three The Bloodthirsty Courier
• four Notes
• 5 Backside the scenes
• 6 Bugs
• 7 Gallery
• viii References

Synopsis

Well known brahmin rancher Heck Gunderson asks the Courier to track downwardly his son Ted, who has disappeared in the Ultra-Luxe Casino Hotel. Ted was kidnapped past agents of Mortimer of the White Glove Society, in an attempt to return the White Glove Social club to cannibalism.

Alarm: This quest is tied to Pheeble Will. If choosing the vengeful way to kill Heck Gunderson and/or his son, depending on your choices, it is possible to neglect ane of the two quests.

Quick walkthrough

Side Quest: Beyond the Beef

Go to the Ultra-Luxe casino and speak with Heck Gunderson.

Speak with Marjorie and and then Mortimer, the managers of the Ultra-Luxe.

Sort out everyone's problems past either:

Assistance return Heck Gunderson's son to him alive, curing the White Glove Society cannibalism in the process.

Help return Heck Gunderson's son to him alive and help Mortimer render the White Glove Society to cannibalism by killing i of your homo companions or a man named Carlyle St. Clair Iii.

Impale and cook Heck Gunderson's son, blame his father for the murder, and help the White Glove Society return to cannibalism.

Kill every White Glove member you lot run into on the way to Ted and atomic number 82 him out alive.

Reward: 100 or 500 XP, 250 or 500 caps and the Strip fame or White Glove Society fame.

Detailed walkthrough

In the Ultra-Luxe casino, the Courier finds Heck Gunderson, a wealthy brahmin baron, sitting at the bar and upset about his missing son. Later questioning the purpose of his visit, ane tin offer assist in finding his son, Ted Gunderson. Then go talk with Marjorie, one of the managers of the Ultra-Luxe Casino & Hotel, located at the Gourmand eating place and learn that a bride went missing in the hotel, which is dissentious their reputation. At some point in the chat she will inform you that the White Glove Society were cannibals, but this practice is now forbidden. You have the option to tell her that you are a cannibal too, as a lie (unless you have the Cannibal perk), which does non impress her and will atomic number 82 to White Glove Society infamy.

After you inform her that you are looking for another man, much to her disbelief, she will tell you to find the other manager, Mortimer. When talking to Mortimer you lot have several options.

• Yous can lie, with a Speech of 62, or use the Cannibal perk, to tell him that you are a cannibal too (no infamy gained), he will be euphoric and explain his plan to render the White Glove Guild to cannibalism, past killing or arranging a substitute for Ted Gunderson.
• You lot can just ask him directly if you have evil Karma and not-neutral Strip reputation.
• You tin can follow Marjorie'southward advice and ask him about an investigator searching for clues virtually a missing bride in the hotel.

Working with Mortimer

Mortimer is very displeased that the Social club is denying their basic impulses and wishes the render of the old practices. For this, he volition arrange a banquet in which members volition be served meals prepared with human flesh. For this purpose he arranged a kidnapping, but the victim was able to escape. Having to find a substitute at the concluding minute, those loyal to him kidnapped Ted Gunderson, son of Heck Gunderson, a very powerful brahmin baron.

Mortimer wants to get rid of Ted in a style that doesn't leave whatever suspicion of the Ultra-Luxe; or, if information technology's non possible, kill Ted and utilize him as a repast, framing his father for the death. If yous want to spare Ted's life you have to provide a substitute for the banquet, which can be one of your man companions if y'all requite this suggestion to him or the original victim that was able to escape, Carlyle St. Clair Three. Notation, that you tin can't employ false foreign pie for this task. He and so will provide keys for the Ultra-Luxe freezer, Gourmand kitchen and Ultra-Luxe Penthouse, as well as a cattle prod.

Return Ted to his father and detect a substitute for the feast

• If yous want to return Ted alive to his father, go to the Gourmand eating house and apply the elevator to get to the basement.
• A White Glove Society guard will inquire what y'all are doing there. Inform him that Mortimer wishes to become rid of the child without arousing suspicion if he cooperates, with a 55 Oral communication check.
• Open the freezer and talk to Ted. You have to prevarication well-nigh the people who did this to him and pass a 38 Spoken communication check, indicating that perchance it was some competitors trying to screw his father's negotiation well-nigh brahmin with the "White Pants Society" (in Ted'south own words).
• Get out with him through the Gourmand restaurant kitchen. If yous try to use the members-only door everyone in the basement will turn hostile (fifty-fifty if you don't open the door).
• Guide Ted to his begetter, who will be furious and demand to know who did this to Ted. Lie that y'all don't know and receive 500 caps from him, too as some White Glove Guild fame.

The next pace is to find a substitute for the banquet.

You may either:

Sacrifice one of your human being companions by going to the kitchen and locking them in the freezer. This will cease the quest. Note: you will lose anything they are conveying.

or:

Travel to Carlyle St. Clair's house and convince Carlyle to go to the Ultra-Luxe, or knock him unconscious and put his body in a dumpster close to his firm. His home is located close to Freeside North Entrance; travel to the gate and follow the route betwixt north and northeast in a straight line.

There are many ways to deal with Carlyle St. Clair. You can convince him to get to the Ultra-Luxe with a 65 Speech cheque; if you lot have the Blackness Widow perk you tin can propose to have sex with him in the dumpster; with 45 guns you can pistol-whip him; asking him nearly himself will reveal he was black-labeled past his family and with a 45 Speech you lot can convince him that the White Glove Society can clean his proper noun; asking well-nigh a pain he has in the neck will lead to a 7 Strength, 45 Medicine or 45 Unarmed check that will knock him unconscious. If you don't have whatever of these skills, use a cattle prod that Mortimer provided to y'all (make sure that your companions are away, if not they may accidentally impale him). Drag his body to the dumpster and place him inside. Information technology should be noted that if you have the Carnivorous perk, devouring him will brand y'all fail the quest.

Go back to Mortimer later on dealing with St. Clair, or your companion, and gain 500 XP and a huge boost of Strip and White Glove Society fame. This concludes the quest and the White Glove will return to cannibalism subsequently the 7PM feast.

ALTERNATIVELY:

You tin steal or gain through dialogue a recipe from the caput chef, Philippe, that volition let you lot create a human flesh alternative to fool Mortimer and all the White Glove members (55 Barter check volition get y'all his recipe, 55 Medicine check volition get you lot his recipe and the primal to the freezer where they're keeping Ted). This will effect in Mortimer revealing himself at the banquet without the role player having to kill anyone, not even the cook. This is possible if the role player can pass a Castling, Medicine or Voice communication check to get the recipes and remove the cook without having to kill him. Create the dish, and wait until 7 PM for the feast to begin. Use the intercom to phone call the head waiter. When the waiter arrives you must either exist disguised equally a member of the White Glove Society or hidden out of sight, otherwise he will become hostile.

If you lot plan on freeing Ted and exposing Mortimer, talk to him only after the caput waiter has left the room, preferably the surface area, because he will be hostile if Ted is post-obit you. Employ the straight route to the banquet hall, and sneak while you enter, because the White Glove members volition be hostile to you. Expect for Mortimer to finish his speech, walk upward to him, stand up and quickly talk to him, because otherwise your companions and Ted will attack the bouncer, causing the entire room to get hostile to yous (if you lot notice yous are unable to avert this, open the console, click on Ted, and type in "tai" and press Enter. This will disable his AI and preclude him from attacking. Practise the same for whatsoever companions. Be sure to do it once again to re-enable their AI once you accept dealt with Mortimer). Expose Mortimer's plan, and talk to Marjorie for your heave to White Glove Lodge fame. Y'all likewise gain Strip fame if you persuade (35 Voice communication) Heck Gunderson non to stop selling brahmin meat to White Glove lodge.

Quest stages

Stage	Status	Description
10		Ask around the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson's disappearance.
twenty		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe about the investigator.
eighty		Become Ted back to his father if he is however alive.
100		Talk to Ted Gunderson, who'southward being held in a room beneath the Gourmand.
105		Return Ted to his begetter at the Ultra-Luxe'southward Top Shelf Bar.
110		Secure an acceptable replacement for Ted Gunderson as the White Glove Society's main course.
120		Talk to Carlyle St. Clair at his residence north of the Strip.
125		(Optional) Lock ane of your human companions in the Ultra-Luxe kitchen freezer as replacement for Ted.
130		(Optional) Take the recipe-volume from the cook, non-violently (optional) and make a human-flesh alternative and let Mortimer expose himself to the people, while they dine on a meat that's not man-mankind.
200		Return to Mortimer in the Ultra-Luxe

Impale Ted, and frame his male parent for the murder

If you desire to complete the quest Pheeble Will and receive a very overnice reward from both Mortimer and Walter Phebus, killing Ted is advantageous.

Take the quest from Walter but don't take any of the Barter checks. Go dorsum to the Ultra-Luxe and tell Mortimer that you want to help him (yous may have to lie to him). Mortimer volition give yous a primal that lets you lot enter the kitchen basement. A White Glove Society baby-sit will ask what you are doing, inform him that Mortimer wishes to go rid of the child. Open the freezer and talk to Ted. You lot have the option to talk a trivial or simply tell him that you are finishing what the White Gloves started, which will crusade him to plough hostile. Later on killing Ted, collect a bit of blood and some remains from the corpse to frame his father.

Note: This option is still bachelor if y'all lie about your intention when agreeing to help Mortimer, but go along in mind that you mustn't agree to assist Heck Gunderson find his son when request what he is doing in the Ultra-Luxe in the quest Pheeble Volition or the option to help Mortimer frame Heck volition not appear. But fifty-fifty then it is still possible to go with this option by only going about the quest to help Mortimer and kill Ted anyway, every bit the quest will simply advance to the office of framing Heck every bit shortly as Ted is dead.

With the false evidence in your inventory, go to the Ultra-Luxe Penthouse. The penthouse can be accessed from an lift located in a room behind Mortimer'southward desk. Two bodyguards working for Gunderson, his hired easily patrol the suite and are hostile, but can be killed without Karma penalty. Distribute the blood and remains of Ted in the bed and in the bathroom sink. And then go to the Strip and inform a securitron that a murder happened in the Ultra-Luxe. After making a surreal and mocking voice communication about the law, the securitron will proceed to arrest Heck Gunderson, who will resist and end upwards being killed.

Proceed to Mortimer for your advantage of 500 XP, Strip and White Glove Society fame, and the result of the White Glove Society returning to cannibalism afterwards the 7PM banquet.

After talking to Mortimer, go back to Walter for an boosted reward of 200 XP and 1,500 caps or 110 XP and 400 caps.

Extra info: This method will permit the Courier to complete the entire line of tasks in Return Unto Caesar.

Quest stages

Stage	Condition	Clarification
10		Ask around the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson's disappearance.
20		Ask with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe about the investigator.
80		Become Ted back to his father if he is even so alive.
100		Talk to Ted Gunderson who's beingness held in a room beneath the Gourmand.
150		Kill Ted Gunderson.
160		Collect samples of Ted's corpse for use in framing his father.
170		Distribute your samples effectually Heck Gunderson'southward bed and sink in his Ultra-Luxe penthouse suite.
180		Send a Securitron from the Strip to investigate Heck Gunderson'due south suite.
200		Return to Mortimer in the Ultra-Luxe

Following the Investigator

At that place is also a way to salvage Ted and forestall the White Glove Gild from returning to cannibalism:

When y'all talk to Marjorie about the disappearance of Ted, she tells you lot that an investigator was looking for clues most a missing bride who had stayed at the hotel, so she directs you to Mortimer. After inquiring Mortimer about the investigator, he gives you a key to the investigator's room. If you enquire near the White Glove Order's reputation of cannibalism, you have the opportunity to lie with 62 Spoken communication or use the Carnivorous perk to tell him that you lot are also a cannibal. Mortimer volition reveal his plan to you and request that y'all help him. If you agree to help without lying, you will not be able to obtain the note Matchbook from the expressionless investigator or meet with Chauncey. If you lie nigh helping, Mortimer will give yous the Penthouse key, kitchen key, and freezer key.

Go to the investigator's room, located in the Ultra-Luxe Hotel rooms. Yous will discover that the investigator is dead. Search his body for the matchbook note, which volition tell you lot that he had a meeting with someone in the Ultra-Luxe steam room at 4PM. Two White Glove Club members will announced and assault with dress canes. After dealing with them, caput to the steam room and wait until 4PM.

In the steam room, you volition encounter Chauncey, a member of the White Glove Lodge who wants to end Mortimer from returning to cannibalism. He tells you that a banquet at 7PM will serve a meal made with human flesh and that Mortimer is behind the disappearance of Ted Gunderson. Mortimer'southward plan is to brand a spoken language telling the White Glove Order what they ate so they will laissez passer the taboo and return to cannibalism.

Chauncey doesn't know where Ted is, just he suspects that he is being held in the Members-Only section of the Ultra-Luxe. Chauncey warns you that if Ted is seen in the hotel, the other members will attack to protect their secret. He gives ii suggestions for freeing Ted:

• Y'all can fasten the wine with a Med-X and 25 Medicine to create drugged wine, then escape with Ted while the members are comatose (if you need a Med-X, y'all tin try to find one in a first aid kit, although it is rare. There are iii kits in the basement: one in each of the ii next basement kitchens, and 1 in the storage room next to the bath).
• Yous tin cook up a fake repast that will trick Mortimer into exposing himself without corrupting the rest of the White Glove members. According to Chauncey, at the finish of Mortimer's speech, you lot tin can enter the feast hall with Ted alive and crusade the Society to expel Mortimer.

Chauncey recommends the 2d arroyo, since the kickoff would just be a temporary solution, and it would not preclude Mortimer from trying again in the future. Correct later on you say cheerio, an assassin volition appear and impale Chauncey. Notation: Chauncey is scripted to die. Even if you lot kill the assassin before a unmarried shot is fired against Chauncey, he will still die instantly as if he had been shot.

Later dealing with the assassin, proceed to the Gourmand. If your reputation on the Strip is "accepted" or better, Marjorie will sponsor you as a member and requite you formal wear and a cardinal to the Members-Simply department. Behind the bar is a door to the kitchen that can be lockpicked, or use the key if information technology was provided by Mortimer earlier (or take the long way from the casino flooring to the Members-Merely section and through the door behind the bar to the kitchen.)

In the upper level are two White Glove members torching meat with flamers. There are half-dozen pieces of infected brahmin meat on the counters. Use the elevator or caput downwards the stairs to the basement. There is a White Glove Society member patrolling the hallway. If he sees you and asks what you are doing in the basement, you tin lie with 55 Speech and say that Mortimer wants to movement the kid, or you lot can choose a 35 Repair check to convince him that y'all are a plumber checking for leaks.

Go down the hall and look for the kitchen where the executive chef, Philippe, is located (there is a Recipes - Brahmin Wellington on the counter). To free Ted, you lot can utilize either the freezer fundamental or the terminal adjacent to the freezer door (at a loss of Karma,) just you must deal with Philippe first. There are several things that can be done:

• You tin can pickpocket Philippe for the note Philippe'southward recipes and the freezer key.
• You lot can impale and loot him. This gains White Glove Society infamy unless information technology is a stealth impale. You lot also gain Karma since he is evil.
• Y'all can antagonize Philippe through dialogue until you have the opportunity for several skill checks. (Note: you can do multiple checks if y'all talk to him again subsequently.)
  • Speech bank check: With 55 Speech, you lot can tell him you lot saw a Radroach. He will run into the pantry, at which point you can use the concluding to shut the door, trapping him inside. Even so, you lot need 75 Survival to brand faux strange meat pie without a recipe, or create drugged wine with a Med-X and 25 Medicine.
  • Barter bank check: With 55 Barter, you can say you are major publisher looking for a cookbook. So in that location are two options: pay him 100 caps for an advance on the volume, or pass some other 55 Speech cheque to tell him to give you his recipes. Still, you even so need to find a way to get rid of him and a way to get into the freezer (if you don't want to use the terminal).
  • Medicine check: With 55 Medicine, y'all tin can tell him "harebrained psychobabble" until he has a breakdown. He gives you lot his recipes and freezer cardinal before fleeing.

If you lot wish to cook imitation strange meat pie and expose Mortimer, yous volition need Philippe's recipes and 6 Intelligence or 75 Survival to improvise one.

If you wish to brand drugged wine, you lot need a Med-Ten and 25 Medicine. (If you need a Med-X, y'all tin can effort to find one in a first assist kit, although it is rare. There are three first aid kits in the basement: one in each of the two adjacent basement kitchens, and one in the storage room next to the bathroom.) In that location is a wine bottle you can examine on a shelf higher up the stove in Philippe's kitchen, and another wine bottle on a tabular array in the vino cellar room (in the room next to the other kitchen). You but need to drug one bottle, simply it cannot be taken despite the red steal message. However, you lot can pickpocket the head waiter while he is carrying information technology; the members at the banquet even so end upwards beingness drugged. (This makes information technology possible to keep both the drugged vino and imitation strange meat pie in your inventory, if you also cook the false food and "steal" it.)

Later cooking the nutrient or drugging the wine, wait until 7PM (when the dinner guests get in,) and so use the intercom to call the head waiter to come up down and collect the vino/meal. If Marjorie did not sponsor you equally a White Glove Gild member earlier, disguise yourself in White Glove attire earlier the head waiter arrives, or stay hidden so that he does non become hostile. (For whatever reason, sometimes the waiter stops in front of the kitchen door when told to pick up the wine; to fix this, just close the door, and he'll retrieve the second bottle in the wine cellar.) It'southward likewise advisable to free Ted after the caput waiter has left, since seeing Ted will turn the waiter hostile. When you open the door, Ted will be very upset, demanding to know who did this to him. You have three options: say there'southward no time to explicate, tell him the truth, or lie and say y'all don't know who did it. In guild to gain White Glove Society fame when the quest ends, don't tell Ted (or his father) the truth, and then choose "At that place's no time to explain" or lie to him.

Have Ted follow you out of the kitchen and to the right, being conscientious to make certain the waiter isn't still walking back. Follow the stairs up and go through the door to the White Glove private dining area (if you're not a member you'll need to use a fundamental from Marjorie or Mortimer, or selection the lock). If the waiter took the wine, everyone will be asleep. You can loot the bodies, Mortimer being amid them. If the waiter took the fake repast, hunker down and hide behind the bar until Mortimer finishes his spoken language. Annotation: You lot must look for him to finish his banquet voice communication with the words "bon appetit" before you approach Mortimer. Doing then beforehand will cause the other White Gloves to become hostile to y'all.

As soon as Mortimer finishes, but spring over the counter, run over to him and initiate dialogue. Exposing him will cause him to flee, merely the other diners - the ones who might otherwise have attacked you - should remain neutral. If you are successfully able to attack Mortimer after exposing him but before he flees the room, the other diners may collectively mob Mortimer and assist y'all in killing him. Afterwards, talk to Marjorie to receive White Glove Society fame.

At this point you tin either render Ted to his father, or yous can carry out the revenge path of Pheeble Will every bit detailed in the section above.

To complete the quest peacefully, render with Ted to his father. If you didn't prevarication to Ted in the freezer, he will tell his male parent what happened and Heck will want to impose a blockade of food on the Strip. Yous accept the pick to non let this happen with a 35 Spoken communication bank check, which will pb to Strip fame. If you are unable to pass the check, you volition proceeds infamy. If you lied to Ted in the freezer (or said there wasn't time to explicate), his father asks who was backside the kidnapping. If y'all tell the truth, you have to pass the same 35 Spoken language check, merely this time you volition only gain Strip fame. If you prevarication to him, you will proceeds both Strip fame and White Glove Society fame.

You besides get 500 XP and 500 caps for completing the quest.

Quest stages

Phase	Status	Clarification
10		Inquire around the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson's disappearance.
20		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe about the investigator.
xxx		Get into the investigator's room at the Ultra-Luxe.
35		Search the Investigator for clues.
40		Run across with the investigator's contact in the Ultra-Luxe steam room at 4pm.
fifty		Find a fashion to gain access to the Members-But department of the Gourmand.
60		(Optional) Find a sponsor to assistance y'all join the White Glove Society.
70		(Optional) Alarm Heck Gunderson to his son's state of affairs.
75		(Optional) Get rid of Philippe and cook for the feast using his recipe for human being flesh.
76		(Optional) Drug the vino at the White Glove Society banquet.
78		(Optional) Use the intercom to call in the head waiter.
79		(Optional) Bring Ted to the Members Only section to expose Mortimer at the terminate of his banquet speech.
80		Become Ted dorsum to his father if he is yet alive.
ninety		Talk to Heck Gunderson.

The Bloodthirsty Courier

You also have the unmarked option to utilize Wasteland manners in the pedant face of the White Glove Social club, if you don't heed the possibility of being vilified by them.

Follow the quest as detailed in the "Following the Investigator" section higher up, but later on discovering from Chauncey the plans regarding Ted, the Courier has the unmarked option to tell Heck Gunderson what'due south happening.

After you take given Heck the news, he offers a different solution: only shoot everyone in your way and return Ted to him. He provides you with a sawed-off shotgun and some shells.

Note that if you do this, you tin kill all of the White Gloves in the casino with no Karma loss and never have your weapons taken again. You can fifty-fifty go into the cashier's role and clean information technology out to get your possessions dorsum, suffering only pocket-sized Karma loss for opening/stealing things. Then you will accept all your weapons and can go on the quest uninterrupted, although you may want to disguise every bit a White Glove to prevent unwanted attacks. Just be certain not to kill Marjorie or Mortimer or the quest volition fail. Even later on all the killing, once you lot consummate the quest you may still go from hated to idolized by the White Gloves.

One time yous return Ted to his father the quest is completed, and you proceeds 500 XP and 500 caps from Heck.

Notes

• It is possible to skip near all of this quest and however receive the XP points and reward from Heck. Subsequently speaking with Heck for the commencement fourth dimension and agreeing to help discover his son, simply sneak into the Gourmand kitchen via the locked door behind the bar. It is possible to do this undetected. Once inside, sneak by the ii White Gloves roasting the brahmin meat and head downwards the stairs. There is another White Glove on patrol in this hallway. If he detects you he will face yous and you can laissez passer a Speech communication check to convince him that Mortimer told you to motility the boy or tell him you lot're at that place to fix some leaky pipes. If you laissez passer ane of these Speech checks he will let yous continue. Any of the doors on the left side of the hallway will lead you lot to where Phillipe is continuing. He volition exist facing the wall and it is possible to sneak past him undetected. Behind him is the door to the freezer room. Hack the terminal (accessing the terminal will cause yous to lose Karma) to gain admission to the freezer. This is where Ted is existence held. Talk to Ted and he will follow you out. It is possible to sneak past Phillipe over again. If you are detected by Phillipe after freeing Ted he volition get hostile, forth with all the other White Gloves in the kitchen area. The White Glove in the hallway will non face up y'all even if he sees Ted with you. Sneak back upstairs and out of the kitchen. Once yous're out of the kitchen observe Heck speak with him. You will have all the dialogue options as you would usually.
• The decision to help the White Glove Order or non does not have whatever repercussions in the game or in the quest Render Unto Caesar other than giving some Legion reputation and a lot of bad Karma to the player. This is the simply quest in New Vegas that doesn't carry any repercussions between factions, towns, locations or non-actor characters. This is likewise i of the few quests that allows you to subvert the unabridged progression and kill almost anybody in it without damaging your reputation or Karma.
• The actor can both expose Mortimer and kill Heck and Ted without framing Heck. To practise this, betrayal Mortimer as detailed in the higher up walkthrough, then kill Ted in an abandoned surface area of the casino so yous are not seen. Report to Heck that Ted is expressionless and tell him the White Glove Guild kidnapped him, which leads into the same 35 Spoken communication check to not stop supplying the Strip meat as though the player brought Ted back alive. Heck will remain at the bar afterward dialogue ends, only depict your weapon and kill him, then put your weapon away and the White Glove Society members and other patrons should go back to friendly. Y'all tin then written report to Walter to conclude Pheeble Will. This path earns yous the title "Good-Natured Rascal", as you volition be idolized by the White Glove Society but are guilty of breaking their rules by carrying a weapon and attacking Heck in their view. Or, kill him stealthily, e.g. with the silenced .22 pistol, which is a holdout weapon. Hiding in the casino behind a tabular array is quite achievable, yous may accept to fire two or 3 times to kill him before he turns around.
• If you chose to drug the wine, after the caput waiter picks up the drugged wine, you can pickpocket it off him with no change in the current objective (the White Glove Gild members will withal become comatose).
  • Also, when y'all enter the White Glove Club gathering you have the pick to talk to the members. Attempting to talk to them actually opens up their extended inventory (the clothes they are currently wearing will be listed), which you tin can boodle without loss of Karma or reputation. Even later finishing the quest, the members will not replace their vesture or masks, and they will walk around in their underwear. Too if yous wake them upwardly when they are drugged by hitting i and then putting your fists away they all volition walk around the room and you can still pick their pockets as if they were unconscious and the player volition not be able to talk to them until they go out.
• If all the securitrons on The Strip were killed previously, information technology can be difficult to finish this quest via framing Gunderson as the quest markers will simply point to empty spaces and the securitrons can take a very long time to respawn. This tin can be detrimental when playing on Hardcore as you volition most likely have to wait for over a calendar week, during which fourth dimension you will have to go on slumber, dehydration and hunger levels downward. On the PC version accessing the panel, targeting a dead securitron and entering the control "resurrect" will restore the securitron to life and allow you to complete the quest.
• If y'all are working for Mr. House after the quest is completed y'all have the option to tell him that the White Gloves are now cannibals, he will and so tell you lot to deal with them in any manner yous see fit as this is a alienation of their contract.
• If you choose to frame Heck Gunderson, the securitron that comes to bargain with him will be a securitron MK I, regardless of whether or not the Courier upgraded Mr. House'south securitrons to MK 2.
• If you want to complete both the Pheeble Will and Beyond The Beef quests with the nearly experience, the all-time choice is to, if yous have the advisable Castling skill level, get Phebus to concur to pay 400 caps for your help first. Then, go talk to Heck Gunderson and find out his son Ted is missing. Afterward that, speak with Phebus again and tell him what you've found out; he'll pay you and the next ready of dialogue options volition announced. Only choose 'Adieu', and so talk to his wife. Tell her you'll endeavor to talk Phebus out of it, and then practise and then past whatever methods are at your disposal. He and his wife will get out without yous having to kill Ted or Heck. This volition give you 413 XP, just only 400 caps. Information technology besides requires Speech 75. This way you can bring Ted back to his father Heck and receive 589 XP, equally well as 500 caps. You do still need Speech 35 to ensure y'all go the Strip and White Glove Society fame. As well killing Mortimer afterward you show him up will give you 55 XP. Simply if you complete this quest peacefully first will neglect the Pheeble Will quest. If you already took Ted to Heck, finish the former quest before talking to Heck.
• If you bring Ted back to Heck and and then kill Heck, the White Glove Society will shun you, but Heck's hired gun volition aid you fight them.
• Picking the lock to the door that leads to the cashier's booth volition result in negative Karma, and upon approaching the cashier, he will become hostile. However, if you simply pick the lock so close the door, there will exist no resulting hostility.
• The only fashion to receive Strip fame is currently to dissuade Heck Gunderson from imposing a nutrient blockade, which is possible Simply if y'all return Ted to his male parent, thus declining Pheeble Will. Helping Mortimer promotes you to Idolized with the White Gloves, but has no effect on your Strip reputation. (Y'all can as well just kill Ted and lie to Heck that you merely found him and don't know who did it, that volition also give yous Strip fame, as well every bit White Glove fame).
• As of version ane.4, neither Mortimer nor Marjorie take lines about cannibalism or Ted Gunderson until yous offer to Heck to find his son (at to the lowest degree if you aren't a Cannibal and only take high Speech). And, reverse to what the walkthrough keeps reiterating, this will actually enable you to inquire Mortimer for a job. Having Pheeble Volition started or not does not seem to be of relevance. Put another way, this quest is now given only by Heck Gunderson.

Behind the scenes

• Across the Beef was designed by Eric Fenstermaker.
• Beyond the Beef took a very long fourth dimension to stop during development, every bit it took many milestones to complete. It was never under consideration to be cut from the game, despite its bugs, considering of the quality of the quest - instead, the internal discussions were more along the lines of emphasizing the demand to wrap up development of the quest and so the team could focus efforts elsewhere.^{[Not-catechism 1]}
• If the Courier has the Wild Wasteland trait, then after framing Heck Gunderson, the securitron sent to abort him will say the line "Dead or live, you're coming with me" merely before shooting him. This is a quote from the motion-picture show RoboCop (1987). The vox and inflection sound similar to that of Robocop as well.
• Also if the Courier has the Wild Wasteland trait, the deceased investigator will exist named "Crusoe." This is in reference to Robinson Crusoe, the protagonist of the classic novel of same name. In the novel, Crusoe is marooned on an island where he encounters cannibals.
• The name of this quest is some other play of words that most likely refers to the song Across the Reef, written by J. Pitman in 1948 and made pop in 1950 past Bing Crosby. The song was covered by Elvis Presley and The Ventures, along with many other artists.

Bugs

• PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 If you cull to cook the faux meat pie then take it, when you call the head waiter over he will stand in front of the oven and volition not move. ^[verified]
  • On the Xbox 360, if you put information technology dorsum then await 24 hours, he will take taken it. Brand sure it is still around 7 PM when you leave the kitchen or you will meet the bug mentioned below where Mortimer doesn't make his speech.
• PC Playstation iii Xbox 360 Ted Gunderson may become stuck in combat mode, and will not follow yous through expanse transitions. To correct, look 1 hour or fast travel to The Strip North Gate, Ted should appear before long. When re-entering the Strip, be cautious equally Ted does not accept a passport and volition be shot by security if yous do not make it to the gate fast plenty. Taking the monorail from Army camp McCarran volition also piece of work. Alternatively, if you exercise non desire to risk Ted dying, you lot can slowly and carefully walk into him, pushing him towards Heck. This is assuming yous do not have to travel through any doors. Y'all tin can also utilise the 'resurrect' command on him from the console if you're playing the PC version, and it will reset him. Waiting two to three hours on the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 too works. Also, if you accept a full party, dismissing your humanoid companion on the spot, causes him to deed ordinarily (Tested on PC). ^[verified]
• PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 If you lot prepare the repast, call the waiter, and then become up to the private dining room without Ted, Mortimer may never begin his speech. If you try to return later with Ted, the room will go hostile toward you lot. ^[verified]
• Xbox 360 If yous are working with the Legion, and leave Boone in the freezer every bit a substitute meal, make certain you kill him before locking him in. "Back" him upwards into the freezer, kill him, return the Gunderson kid to his father, and then tell Mortimer. If y'all do not impale Boone first, fifty-fifty if y'all hire another companion after he's been eaten, when you lot become to the Legion military camp, you will be perceived as hostile and attacked on sight. ^[verified]

Gallery

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References

Non-canon

1. ↑ Fallout: New Vegas 10th Anniversary Charity Stream (reference starts at 2:23:15)
   Joshua Sawyer: "'Did I mean to cut Beyond the Beef?' No, Across the Beef... there were quests that we cutting for complication or, like, they got out of control really speedily. Merely Across the Beef... even though it's buggy, is a very good quest. No... Beyond the Beef did take multiple milestones to finish, which was frustrating, considering in that location was a lot of content to make. But it was a very adept quest, so nosotros never talked about cutting it, merely at that place was e'er like 'nosotros gotta wrap up Across the Beef so we can do other quests in the game.' That was more than of the discussion."

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Principal quests Human activity 1 Ain't That a Kick in the Head · Dorsum in the Saddle · By a Campfire on the Trail · They Went That-a-Way · Ring-a-Ding-Ding! Act 2 Wild Card (Wild Carte du jour: Ace in the Hole, Change in Direction, You lot and What Army?, Side Bets, Finishing Touches) · The House Always Wins (I, II, Three, IV, V, 6, VII, VIII) · Render Unto Caesar · Et Tumor, Creature? · Things That Get Blast · Kings' Gambit · For the Republic, Function 2 · You'll Know It When Information technology Happens/Arizona Killer Deed 3 No Gods, No Masters · All or Nothing · Veni, Vidi, Vici · Eureka! Side quests New California Commonwealth Anywhere I Wander · Back in Your Own Backyard · Bitter Springs Infirmary Blues · Boulder Metropolis Showdown · Tin can You Notice it in Your Heart? · Climb Ev'ry Mount · Don't Tread on the Bear! · Emergency Radio · Eye for an Heart · Flags of Our Foul-Ups · Hard Luck Blues · I Don't Hurt Anymore · I Put a Spell on You lot · Go along Your Optics on the Prize · Medical Mystery · No, Not Much · Pressing Matters · Restoring Hope · Return to Sender · That Lucky Old Lord's day · The White Wash · There Stands the Grass · Three-Carte du jour Bounty · Nosotros Will All Go Together · You Can Depend on Me Caesar's Legion Beware the Wrath of Caesar! · Caesar's Favor · Caesar's Foe · Caesar'south Hire · Cold, Cold Eye · I Hear Y'all Knocking · The Finger of Suspicion · We Are Legion The Strip Beyond the Beef  · Cheerio Bye Dear · Classic Inspiration · How Little We Know · Pheeble Will · Talent Pool · The House Has Gone Bust! · The Moon Comes Over the Tower Freeside & Outer Vegas Birds of a Feather · Bleed Me Dry · Debt Collector · G.I. Blues · High Times · Someone to Watch Over Me · The Coyotes · Wang Dang Atomic Tango Boomers Ant Misbehavin' · Sunshine Boogie · Volare! · Young Hearts Bully Khans Aba Daba Honeymoon · Cry Me a River · Don't Make a Ragamuffin of Me · Oh My Papa Pulverisation Gang Booted · I Fought the Police · Run Goodsprings Run · Why Tin can't We Be Friends? Brotherhood of Steel Eyesight to the Blind · Nonetheless in the Dark · Tend to Your Concern Other Come Fly With Me · Crazy, Crazy, Crazy · Ghost Town Gunfight · Guess Who I Saw Today · Left My Eye · My Kind of Boondocks · The Legend of the Star and A Valuable Lesson · Unfriendly Persuasion · Bike of Fortune Companion quests ED-Due east My Love · For Auld Lang Syne · Heartache by the Number · I Could Make Yous Care · I Forgot to Remember to Forget · Nothin' Only a Hound Dog · One for My Babe Unmarked quests A Bit of Slap and Tickle · A Final Program for Esteban · Access Powers · All Fired Up! · An Ear to the Footing · Andy and Charlie · Arachnophobia · Arizona Scavenger · Barton the Fink · Bear Necessities · Big Winner (Atomic Wrangler, The Gomorrah, The Tops, Ultra-Luxe, Vikki & Vance) · Bounty Killer (I, Two) · Brotherhood Bail (I, II) · Caching in at the Cove · Cajoling a Cudgel · Claws Mended · Claws Out · Dealing with Contreras · Defacing the Humble Stone · Republic Inaction · Don't Poke at the Bear! · Eddie's Emissary · Exhumin' Nature · Fight Night · Flogging a Dead Corpse · Friend of the Followers · Gland for Some Habitation Cooking · Harder, Meliorate, Faster, Stronger · Hat's Entertainment · Assistance for Halford · Hidden Valley computer virus · Highway to the Danger Zone (I, 2) · Honorary Rocketeer · I Dear Bananas · Atomic number 26 and Stealing · Keith's Caravan Charade · Laurifer Gladiator · Lenk's Bad Debts · Lily and Leo · Long-Term Intendance · Malleable Mini Boomer Minds · Maud'southward Muggers · Meeting an Equal · Missing a Few Missiles · Most Wanted · Non Worth a Hill of Corn and Beans · Old Schoolhouse Ghoul · A Pair of Dead Desperados (I, II) · Papers, Please · Pistol Packing · Playing on the Old Joana · Poor Meat Never Makes Practiced Soup · Powder to the People · Power to the People · Razzle Dazzle! · Reach for the Sky, Mister! · Rest and Resupply · Ringo's Caravan Rules · Rotface's Loose Lips · Saving (or Savaging) Sergeant Teddy · The Screams of Brahmin · Silus Treatment · Short-Term Treatment · Smooth-Talking Criminal · The Star Showdown · Strategic Nuclear Moose · Straus Calls · Strip Search · Suits You, Sarah · Tags of Our Fallen · A Team of Moronic Mercenaries · Thought for the 24-hour interval · Tourist Traipse · Trudy'due south Radio Repair · A Trusted Adjutant · Useless Baubles or Fancy Trinkets? · We Must Stop Beating Like This · We Must Stop Coming together Like This · Wind-Brahmin Wrangler · You Gotta Break Out a Few Eggs · You Brand Me Feel Like a Adult female Add together-on quests Dead Money Sierra Madre Grand Opening! · Observe Collars (eight: "Canis familiaris", 12: Christine, 14: Dean Domino) · Fires in the Heaven · Strike Up the Ring · Mixed Signals · Trigger the Gala Consequence · Put the Beast Downwards · Last Luxuries · Curtain Call at the Tampico · Heist of the Centuries · Large Winner, Sierra Madre Honest Hearts A Family unit Affair · Arrival at Zion · Bighorners of the Eastern Virgin · Chaos in Zion · Civilized Man's Burden · Crush the White Legs · Deliverer of Sorrows  · Parting Paradise · Flying from Zion · Gathering Storms · Gone Fishin' · Happy Trails Expedition · Prisoners of War · Retake the Bridge · River Monsters · Rite of Passage · Roadside Attraction · Sanctity of the Dead · The Advance Scouts  · The Treacherous Road · The Grand Staircase · Tourist Trap Former World Blues All My Friends Have Off Switches · A Encephalon's Best Friend · Coming Out of Her Trounce · Field Research · He Came... And Went · Influencing People · Midnight Science Fiction Characteristic! · Old World Dejection · On the Same Wavelength · Picking Your Brains · Project X-xiii · Sonic Emitter Upgrade · Welcome to the Big Empty · What's in a Proper noun? · When Visitors Attack! · X-2: Strange Transmissions! · Ten-eight Data Retrieval Test · X-eight: High Schoolhouse Horror! · 10-thirteen: Set on of the Infiltrator! Lonesome Road The Reunion · The Silo · The Task · The Launch · The Tunnelers · The Divide · The Courier · The Finish · The Apocalypse

five ·d ·e New Vegas
Locations Freeside Atomic Wrangler Casino · Cerulean Robotics · Freeside's e gate · Freeside'south north gate · Rex's School of Impersonation · Mick & Ralph's · Sometime Mormon Fort · Ruined shop · Silverish Rush New Vegas Strip Gomorrah · Lucky 38 · Las Vegas Boulevard Station · Michael Angelo's workshop · NCR Embassy · NCR Military Police HQ · The Strip North Gate · The Tops · Ultra-Luxe · Vault 21 North Vegas Square The Gray Westside Casa Madrid Apartments · Klamath Bob's liquor store · Miguel's Pawn Shop · N cistern · Westside Co-op · Westside south entrance · Westside west entrance Sewers Fundamental sewers · East primal sewers · N sewers · Sealed sewers · Northwest sewers  · Southwest sewers Characters Freeside April Martimer · Arcade Gannon · Atomic Wrangler crier · Beatrix Russell · Big Beard · Neb Ronte · Caleb McCaffery · Dixon · Elizabeth Kieran · Farris · Fisto · Francine Garret · Genaro · Gloria Van Graff · Grecks · Hadrian · Henry Jamison · Irate Ida · Jacob Hoff · James Garret · Jean-Baptiste Cutting · Julie Farkas · The Rex · Lady Jane · Footling Beard · Little Buster · Malefic Maud · Max · Mick · Mick & Ralph'southward crier · Mr. Soren · Former Ben · Orris · Pacer · Ralph · Rancorous Ruth · Rex · Rotface · Roy · Santiago · Sergio · Silver Blitz crier · Simon · Stacey · Tapper · Vagrant · Wayne New Vegas Strip Alerio · Assassinator · Benny · Big Sal · Billy Knight · Bruce Isaac · Button man · Cachino · Chauncey · Clanden · Crusoe · Dazzle · Dennis Crocker · Emily Ortal · Ethel Phebus · Gambler · Gomorrah dealer · Gomorrah entrance baby-sit · Gomorrah floor director · Gourmand food supplier · Gomorrah prostitute · Hadrian · Heck Gunderson · Mister Holdout · Jake Erwin · Jane · Jay Barnes · Joana · Kate · Liza O'Malley · The Lonesome Out-of-stater · Marie Pappas · Marjorie · Martina Groesbeck · Michael Angelo · Mortimer · Mr. New Vegas · NCR military constabulary · Nero · Philippe · Robert House · Sarah Weintraub · Swank · Street vendor · Ted Gunderson · Tommy Torini · The Tops cashier · The Tops floor manager · Tops promoter · Troike · Ultra-Luxe cashier · Head waiter · Ultra-Luxe flooring manager · Victor · Walter Phebus · White Glove greeter · Yes Man North Vegas Foursquare Andy Scabb · Crandon · Jules · Squatter Bill Westside Tom Anderson · Ettienne · Dermot · Hector · Jimmy · Judah Kreger · Keller · Klamath Bob · Marco · Maude · Hateful Sonofabitch · Miguel · Pretty Sarah · Saint James · Sweetie

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